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Today is V3 day

Today is V3 day. We’re working right now on the new servers, migrating data and so on. My hope is that we’re done within a few hours, but please don’t take this as gospel.
Logging in will be exactly as before. We have given you all new user names, but you will be able to change those as you wish.

There will also be an effect on your Mycourse folders. The data you saved will still be there - vocab in your vocab section, for example - but we’ll now use the calendar, rather than the Mycourse function.

I’ll keep you posted.

Update: We’re live!!!! To find your Mycourse folders, btw, go to the calendar on the Study Schedule page. (You’ll find the link to they Study Schedule in the Toolbox on the left of your personal log in page.)

Ken Carroll

The PDFs

There has been some concern over the new style of PDF transcript. Let me explain:

1)    The traditional characters will be back soon. We are switching things over to V3 where the 2 versions of the PDF transcripts will be in separate files.
2)    Copying and pasting from the PDFs:  It was never the plan to stop this.  It is a temporary side effect of switching to a better PDF creation system—one that will also re-generate all the old PDFs to change them over to the new, improved format.
3)    Font readability issues:  We will be changing the pinyin font back to something clearer.
4)    Including the lesson numbers in the PDFs, along with the lesson titles:  We are working on a way to work the lesson numbers into the new PDF style.

Apologies for any inconvenience. I promise all of this will happen soon. I’m sure that once you see V3 you will agree that it’s worth it. We thank our big family of Cpoddies for their patience, and hope that this helps to put everyone’s mind at ease.

Amber Pisoni

Learning and acquiring

Stephen Krashen

Formal learning involves the type of courses we take in school or on training programs. In school, it is mostly done to us (while we sit passively). It is explicit and presented in structured, generic packages, on a pre-ordained schedule, etc.

Informal learning, by contrast, constitutes everything beyond the formal - anything we learn through reading, listening, conversation, discovery, collaboration in work, etc. Notably it also includes first language acquisition. Informal learning generally involves a greater degree of volition, or at least participation, on the part of the learner.

The formal/informal learning distinction resonates, to my mind, with Stephen Krashen’s learning/acquisition distinction. I’d like to take a closer look. Bear with me, if you would. (Note that I’m not saying they’re the same thing, but I guess I’m trying to probe the similarities.)

Krashen claims that, in the language learning arena, there are 2 separate learning mechanisms. The first is explicit learning: grammar, rules, abstractions - the things we can know about about a language. This is what traditionally gets taught in classrooms and textbooks.

The second learning mechanism is implicit: the natural, psychological, sub-conscious, process of acquisition. Acquisition accounts for how we learned our first language, or when we learn a second language in the environment where it is spoken. Clearly, you can reach fluency without formal instruction.

From Wikipedia:

… language acquisition … occurs naturally, just like first language acquisition, under appropriate conditions. This view constituted a dramatic shift from an earlier position in Krashen’s published work reflecting a commitment to direct instruction and consistent error correction.

Simply by using the language (rather than describing it) we acquire it. Furthermore, Krashen believes there is no relation between formal language learning and acquisition. The domains are wholly separate. In fact, says Krashen, you could formally study the language forever and it would never impact your ability to produce fluent, natural speech.

Now if this is true, then it has major implications for the language teacher and perhaps for formal trainers of any stripe. To me, it is clear why. The lecture format relies almost entirely on the listener’s ability to absorb information along a single dimension, through a single modality. Break out of the lecture format and you get thinking, discussion, inference, interaction, etc, including in the classroom or online. You have feelings, judgments, a social and emotional dimension to the experience. These things involve the broader personality of the learner and mobilize a greater variety of his cognitive faculties. Greater cognitive depth means greater learning.

Notice too that Krashen’s theories pertain to the learner only. He has essentially nothing to say about the role of the teacher. (Some say, resentfully, that he is anti-pedagogy.) I’m seeing an analogy in the realms of e-learning. The more you read on that topic the more you realize that is the emphasis is shifting away from training (the stuff that’d done to us) towards learning (the stuff we do for ourselves).

Formal training programs may have as little effect upon work performance as lectures on grammar would have on individual spoken fluency. Thus far I haven’t read anyone in the e-learning literature make that kind of learning/acquisition distinction, but I think it’s one to explore.

Ken Carroll

Ask

Prompted by a discussion in the last post, I want to emphasize that newcomers are as welcome as anyone to comment here or anywhere else on ChinesePod. I still feel as if newbies don’t get as involved as they might.

With any online community, you have the issue of mixing it up. The newbies tend to ask a lot of basic questions that old-hands may find tiresome. They need to learn, not just the language, but also the culture of the community, as well as where to find information, use the service, etc. Somehow I believe we’ve managed to do a good job of keeping things friendly and helpful here, but I still wonder if we do enough to encourage newbies at the periphery to get involved and eventually become non-newbies.

The first step in entering the community is probably asking questions. If you’re a newbie I want to encourage you to do just that. Go ahead, ask. Don’t be shy.  Here, on the forums, or next week in the ‘connect’ section, just pile right in and ask your questions. They’ll get answered and no-one is going to think you any the less for asking basic questions.

I’d like to hear the Big Brain’s thoughts, too. How do we bring in more of the talent that is almost certainly lurking out there?

Ken Carroll

16 ways to enhance learning

Enlightenment

Jay Cross, in his seminal Informal Learning, has lots of great insights. Here are some into ways to promote learning. According to Jay, people learn best when they:

Know what’s in it for them and deem it relevant
Understand what’s expected of htem
Connect with other people
Are challenged to make choices
Feel safe about showing what they do and do not know
Receive information in small packets
Get frequent progress reports
Learn things close to the time they need them
Are encouraged by coaches nd mentors
Learn from a variety of modalities
Confront maybes instead of certainties
Teach others
Get positive reinforcement for small victories
Make and correct mistakes
Try, try, and try again
Reflect on their learning and apply its lessons

OK, Big Brain. Let’s hear fom you. Do you agree? Do they apply to ChinesePod?

Ken Carroll

Server problems

To all our fellow CPodders,

We just recently discovered that one of our major servers are down and we are now working trying to get it back up and running again. We sincerely apologize for all the inconveniences that this has caused and hopefully, we can restore this specific server by the end of the day.

Kind regards,

Eileen

E learning experts review ChinesePod

Blended learning

Two notable individulas who have been using Chinesepod have blogged about their impressions. Rick Nigol is an e-learning expert who has been using ChinesePod for the last few weeks, as has Paul Dillon, aka, the Learning Guy. Both seem to like ChinesePod, and for similar reasons.

Community
Both cite community as a source of motivation, help, and good learning practices. I hope the instructional part of ChinesePod is helpful to the learner. It’s clear to me, however, that the line between teaching and learning is being blurred by the internet. Teaching can no longer be seen simply as supplying information, with teacher as provider and learner as consumer. What matters is sharing knowledge between the various members of the community, through a conversational framework where everyone contributes. Whether its learner-to instructor, learner-to-learner, learner-to-content, learner-to-infrastructure, it’s the interaction that glues the learning together.

This framework also highlights how we come to know, rather than simply what is known. No teacher can possibly understand how all students learn, but learners with similar needs and objectives can be a tremendous source of insight for each other. To me, this is one of the big differentiators with ChinesePod: For too many years I’ve seen how how teacher-centric instruction inevitably becomes more of a case of preaching than teaching.

Learner control
Both bloggers talk about the importance of learner autonomy/control. Yes. The learner has to be challenged to make his own learning decisions. Learning is not something that is done unto you by others, but something you must choose to do for yourself. Otherwise you’re wasting your time (and I’ve seen a lot of people waste a lot of time on learning iniatives that didn’t go anywhere).

Context
Rick also states the importance of context. Again, yes. I’ve always tried to emphasize the psychological importance of cognition and engagement with the input. (I just realized that in yesterday’s lesson, there are tons of references to where and when specific language can be used.) In addition, over the last year I’ve learned soemthing else about this medium: the provider of learning content must make it concrete and inductive, rather than abstract and discursive. In the old days the book defined the limits of the message. Now we have multi-media and hypertext. There is no reason to employ abstraction where we can have concrete examples. (This is proving to be of massive significance in the context of www.spanishsense.com - that language has, er, grammar.)

Telepractice and the tailored program
Paul is a busy man. He needs to do the learning on his own terms, so the ten minute call per day appears to fit into his schedule. Telepractice adds one more layer to the blending and the interaction. Of course, speaking practice is essential in developing the skill of spoken fluency. If you’re not getting speaking practice of any sort, you should consider some.

Ken Carroll

CCTV is looking for an actor

CCTV are looking for a ‘free-lance actor’ to play the role of a foreign journalist in their Learn to Speak Chinese show. Details here. I guess this would give you the chance to work with the great Da Shan.

Ken Carroll

Bananas and gong fu

Gong fu

This is relatively amusing, if you don’t mind listening to lao wai speaking shaky Chinese. My view is that this is actually a good way to learn. It’s comprehensible and it draws your attention to their mistakes. What do you think?

It’s generally easier for learners to understand other lao wai speaking Chinese. I’d be interested to hear your ideas on why that is the case, too.

Ken Carroll

Practice

By now, regular readers of the ChinesePod blog will have realised that V3 has left no stone unturned. The 8 Week Program is no exception.

For the uninitiated, the 8 Week Program provides a personal study plan designed by one of our counsellors, followed by a daily 10 minute practice session scheduled at whatever time you choose. It’s a great motivator, and helps you build fluency with what you’ve learned. Check out Frank Fradella’s blog for a detailed account. The service went live at the beginning of 2007, and seems to have been well received, with even prominent e-learning experts signing up.

For V3, we have made some improvements to the service and to its presentation.

Payment Options
All ChinesePod subscriptions are available in 1, 6, or 12 month durations, and the 8-week format was an exception. To make it easier for students to compare subscriptions, we’ve standardized the service and it can now be subscribed to in 1,6, or 12 month durations.

Name
…which means we can’t call it the 8 Week Program anymore. We thought the new name should be simple and short (in keeping with ‘Basic’ and ‘Premium’) and should describe the essence of the service. We came up with Practice.

Location
In V2 the service was a bit hard to find, but in V3 it is placed prominently on your personal Study page.

practice

Integration with Schedule
Your counsellor can now send you a study plan, and with one click you can add it to your schedule. Your lessons will be downloaded as you need them through you personal feed. Also, you counsellor can edit your study plan even after you’ve added it to your schedule, meaning the course can be adjusted as you make your way through it.




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Ken Carroll discusses issues concerning learning generally, and learning Mandarin in particular. With technology as the driver, he believes the most effective learning combines elements of collaboration with self-direction. If that seems like a contradiction, then you need to read the blog.

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