What is 菜鸟?

菜鸟 (càiniǎo) is the ChinesePod name given to the “Newbie” lessons. But what does it mean? Well, it means just that… “newbie.”

The word 菜鸟 is made up of the characters 菜 (cài), meaning “vegetable” or “dish,” and 鸟 (niǎo), meaning “bird.” This doesn’t seem to make much sense. That’s because the word came from 闽南话 (Mǐnnánhuà), a dialect from southern Fujian Province. (It is often the case that slang words “imported” into Mandarin from other dialects don’t make much sense in Mandarin because they lose their cultural context.) Many Taiwanese also speak this dialect, and it is Taiwan that popularized the slang term 菜鸟.

菜鸟 is especially good for translating the English word “newbie,” because like that word, 菜鸟 was popularized online and frequently refers to low tech-related or computer ability. This also seems particularly relevant to ChinesePod, since online education through podcasting necessarily involves a minimum of technical ability. Our newbies at Chinese are also often newbies at RSS and podcasting, and that’s just fine.

Note that 菜鸟 is a new word, so not all people (Chinese and otherwise) know it. Use it with confidence!

[Chinese reference: “菜鸟”是什么意思?]

7 Responses to “What is 菜鸟?”


  1. 1 Reggie Dec 11th, 2006 at 3:11 pm

    用“菜鸟”这么久了,为什么现在才解释?

  2. 2 John Dec 11th, 2006 at 3:37 pm

    Reggie,

    We’ve been asked many times in many different places, so we answer the question again and again. This seems like a good place to record the answer.

  3. 3 Shaun Dec 11th, 2006 at 4:33 pm

    This is a very good post. I know I was curious to know where exactly the word ‘newbie’ was derrived from in Chinese. Know I know :].

  4. 4 liulianxiaoyu Dec 11th, 2006 at 7:59 pm

    the antonym of “菜鸟” is “大虾(da4 xia1)”. “大” means “big”, “虾” means “shrimp”

  5. 5 cuppa Dec 14th, 2006 at 11:14 am

    newbie…the pronounciation sounds like “牛比”…

  6. 6 winnie Dec 17th, 2006 at 4:55 pm

    the text is short but interesting and useful.

  7. 7 kmk Dec 18th, 2006 at 6:08 am

    In the past, I’ve heard the word 菜鸟 with a different meaning : fool or “retard”.
    But I’m pretty sure no offence will be taken by the newbies that can’t read chinese.

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Ken Carroll discusses issues concerning learning generally, and learning Mandarin in particular. With technology as the driver, he believes the most effective learning combines elements of collaboration with self-direction. If that seems like a contradiction, then you need to read the blog.